Debbie, and I will stand by that, in context.

Look now that I know you better, I have learned that I can say things to you without you going overboard. There are multitudes of people out there that sell everything they have to live in the woods...so I have to be careful what I say directly to new-comers. Now since you and Christy and Terri certainly aren't new-comers NOW, I can speak more freely.

For one, I know there is LOTS of panic talk that goes around, LOL, it's become an industry unto itself. So three things immediately come to mind for members of the Body of Christ in general, and LLMr's specifically: 1) "I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread" Psalm 37:25, 2) "Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution" 2 Timothy 3:12, and 3) "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord" 2Timothy 1:7-8.

I believe our testing will not be from a lack of bread, but when, for a period of time, True Biblical Christianity, will need to go underground. That is coming. And coming before the Antichrist emerges. The world is in the throws of preparation for his arrival. IF, and that is a BIG "IF", this is the LORD's timing.

Remember, Satan can only guess when the Rapture will be. Therefore he is ready. He's got his man on the scene when he determines that God's hand is about to move. Satan has done this in practically every generation. Just think back.

All of the real horrors will happen after we are gone. As I have stated before, I believe that after the Rapture, there very well may be a period of up to 33 years before that covenant with Israel is signed by the Man of Sin. Now, does that mean there will not be calamities now? No. Just like there was in the Great Depression. But, my folks made it through, and I am sure many of yours did as well, stronger from it.

So, sure put a few things aside each week. And after a period of time, a little becomes a lot. But as Christians, we need to be especially concerned with areas that affect the preaching and teaching of the Gospel. 8-)

Pastor David, I was working on a post to add here, and lo and behold when I came here to share it, you had already used the Scripture references I was going to share. :D Great minds think alike I guess! lol

Anyway...scraping some of what I was going to say, please allow me to share my thoughts on this topic. Ok, I'm all for keeping a little food and water stored up. I'm used to doing that, especially in the winter, because I have been snowed in a time or two. I do have a problem with stockpiling months or years worth of goods, when I see people going everyday NOW without enough to eat. I would not be able to live with myself seeing someone going hungry, when I had food to share with them. I'm thinking of the thousands of people in India right now who are homeless and have nothing.

One thing that REALLY bothered me about what the video shared was the need to have guns and ammunition to protect your food supply! Give me a break! Are any of us willing to kill someone so that we won't starve? :shock: Is that what our LORD would have us to do? If someone wants to kill me so they can have my food, so be it. I KNOW where I will spend eternity, but if I shot someone and killed them and they were not saved, I would have sent them into eternal damnation with no hope of being saved...hmmm....give up my earthly life for a life of no pain, plenty, and seeing my LORD face to face vs. killing someone so I could eat...

Alright, Pastor David already shared the scripture verses I was going to share, but let's look at how God took care of His people during times of famine. Joseph, yes he did store up food, but not just for his family. God showed him what was about to happen so he could feed more than those in Egypt. Elijah and the widow, she gave the last of her food to Elijah, and did the LORD leave her and her son to die? Hmmm? NO! Ok...let's see, oh yes, of course there's the children of Israel wandering in the wilderness for 40 years...they not only had their bellies full but their clothes didn't wear out! Imagine that! New Testament....let's see...oh yes, Jesus fed the 5,000 with two loaves of bread and five fish....hmmmm... I also recall Jesus telling us not to worry about what we should eat or drink or wear...oh and one time he sent Peter to catch a fish so he would find money in the fish's mouth to pay tax. WOW!

I'm not sharing these things to put anyone down, ok? ;) It is my prayer that this will encourage you and give you some food for thought. If God is truly telling you to store up food, then you'd better do as He's directing, but make sure it's from Him and not from a lot of the propaganda that has been out there for several years now. I have some modern stories to share with you on how God provides. Have you ever read "The Hidiing Place?" I can't remember if it was vitamins or what it was that Corrie Ten Boom had with her in the concentration camp, but that small bottle was shared with her sister Betsy and the other women in the camp. The bottle did not run dry until Corrie was freed.

A couple of personal stories. My cousin was a missionary in Ecuador. My aunt and uncle went down to help him and his wife, and they decided to have a dinner for some of the people there. Well, that tribe invited another tribe, and there was not enough food to go around. They were making an American dish, spaghetti and sauce and cooked it in pots over an open fire. My family gathered around the pot and prayed that there would be enough food that everyone there would get their fill. My aunt began to serve the food, and she said she couldn't believe the amount of food she served out of that pot because it FAR exceeded what was put inside! After everyone had been served the pot was empty. I could share other stories from my family and friends of God's miraculous provision, but I think you get the idea.

God has never forsaken me in my times of need. There were times, I didn't have any money, and my cupboards were pretty bare, and EVERY time I was in need, I would either receive some money or some food from someone. Some times I didn't even know where it came from...so do I believe that if there is a famine or if any of the things mentioned in the video take place that I will starve or that I will have to kill someone to survive?! Call me crazy, but NO, I believe that my God is able to meet my needs according to HIS glorious riches! :D I also believe He is able to meet each of your needs too!

25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? 26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? 27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? 28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: 29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? 31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? 32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. 33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. 34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. Matthew 6:25-34

Thank you, Pastor David, for clarifying your thoughts on the subject. I do understand that you have to choose your words carefully at all times as people are looking to you for spiritual guidance.

Terri, thank you so much for your many biblical examples of the ways God provides for his people. That should help edify and comfort those reading these forums who are not familiar with the Word and may have doubts about their future.

Personally, I love hearing testimonies of all sorts, and the one about the spaghetti dinner made me smile. I absolutely believe God will provide for His obedient children just as His word says. I say obedient because I believe this is crucial. The widow woman who used her last food supplies to make a cake for Elijah, for example, had to be obedient to receive her miracle. If she had refused Elijah's request, then she and her son would most likely have died. I think this story was also a reflection on honoring God by giving to Him first, then your blessings will come.


Many of the people that make survivalist videos or have those types of websites are not Christians. A lot of these young men have seen one too many Rambo-type movies. If they endorse shooting/killing people to protect their food supply, that is definitely wrong. That kind of mentality is anti-christ in of itself and Satan would love to see the world turn into a chaotic Wild West scenario. We should be praying this does not happen if a crisis does arise.

I remember when we had a major power outage for a week from a severe summer storm, and another when food in my own cupboards was scarce--down to one can of soup for 2 people for days. I was unprepared both times for such events.

Many of my neighbors offered help to one another with cleanup in the aftermath of the storm......I did the best I could, but one of the things I could contribute was extra candles, so I gave almost all that I had away. It didn't seem like much really, yet it was greatly appreciated by everyone. After things were back to normal, I went to the store to replenish my supply, and ran into a few of my neighbors whom I had given candles to, that were now buying their own. God knows we learn best from hardships. Considering the shape of the economy and world today, I think people should plan ahead, if possible. This doesn't mean we don't have faith in the Lord's grace, power, and blessings, it is being wise. If we ARE faced with lack or an emergency, those that have stored food and supplies could be a blessing to others in that time of need. I never forget however, that everything I have comes from God in the first place. This is my position and prayer, and the point of my post.


Christy, when can I come over to your place? We can ride it out together...LOL. Thanks for posting this subject. Blessings to everyone.

Hey! An Economic Depression Party!!! 8-)

Sister Terri,

Excellent response! 8-)

These days, there are many different events which could leave a population without access to food, water and supplies.
Mathew 5:45 "...He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good and He sends rain on the just and unjust."
Maybe His Church will be raptured before the final global famine. But famines will come in the mean time, here and there, wide spread or localized, tomorrow or years from now and we will not necessarily be immune. The call for preparation is more common sense than it is fear mongering. If the chances were strong that a hurricane was coming in your direction, wouldn't you stock up on supplies and prepare? Sure you would. Advising your family, friends and neighbors to do so could hardly be called panic or fear mongering. There are hurricanes of the weather sort and hurricanes of other sorts.
Hey Debra, and all, come on over when things get rough...I have plenty of canned soup to go around! Heck, come on over anytime!
The weapons do not disturb me a bit. I am thankful that I still have the right to defend my household. Three times God has allowed me to shew off prowlers :shock: in the middle of the night. Also, I'm not a big meater, but I'm thankful that I have the means to hunt down a squirrel or bird if need be. Not all of you will agree with me on this, and I support your right to remain unarmed. 8-)
Christy

Christy

Sister Christy,

And that is exactly what I did about two posts up... 8-)