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Hebrews 6:1-6 and the Body of Christ 
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Post Re: Hebrews 6:1-6 and the Body of Christ
If the dispensation of grace had not at least began when this was written then the author of Hebrews would not be telling anyone to leave the Law or to leave the religion of Judaism.

"For there is verily an annulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof. For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did...By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament" (Heb.7:18-19,22)

Cornelius Stam wrote that the author of Hebrews "exhorts them to leave, finally and fully, the religion of Judaism with its shadows, for Christianity, with its substance and reality" (Stam, The Epistle to the Hebrews, [Berean Literature Foundation, 1991], p.69).

In 1945 Charles C. Baker and Cornelius Stam established the Milwaukee Bible Institute, and Baker served as president. Here is what Baker taught concerning the epistle of Hebrews: "These Hebrews who had been reared under a Divine religion which stood only in meats and drinks and divers baptisms and carnal ordinances (Hebrews 9:10), are now informed that the One who was typified by all of this religion has now come and by means of His efficacious and vicarious death He has brought an end to that religion and that its forms and ceremonies and sacrifices have no further meaning" (Baker, Impossible, Hebrews 6:4 to 10; "Bible Study for Bereans"; July, 1935).

If anyone could be considered the father of systematic Mid Acts dispensationalism it is Sir Robert Anderson. He wrote that "the distinctive sin with which the Epistle deals is unbelief, and unbelief that savours of apostasy, a going back to Judaism by those who had accepted Christ as the fulfillment of that divine religion...the Epistle to the Hebrews sought to teach him that as a partaker of a heavenly calling, he had to do with heavenly realities, of which the glories of his national cult were but types and shadows...nothing but the revelation of something higher and more glorious could ever wean him from his devotion to the national religion" (Anderson, Types in Hebrews, [Kregel Publications, 1978], p. 114,124).

There is nothing in the book of Hebrews that even hints that the doctrine contained therein is for the time when the Law will once again be in effect and the Jews will once again practice Judaism. The teaching of Hebrews is for the present dispensation.

J.C. O'Hair quoted Hebrews 5:12-14 and then said, "Here we are told of the two classes: members of the Body of Christ who could take only the milk of the Word, God's truth for babes; and those who were of full age who could understand the deep things or the meat of God's Word " [emphasis added] (O'Hair, One Hundred Important and Significant Facts For Bible Study).

Brother Stam wrote, "Thus the apostle shows them the 'better things' and higher blessings which are now theirs, along with the other members of Christ's Body, where: 'there is neither Jew nor Greek...neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus ' (Gal. 3:28)... Further, if the Hebrew believers were meant to go on in their 'kingdom' calling and program, and were not to become partakers of the higher blessings of the dispensation of grace, as some teach, then neither Paul, nor any one else would have been in the will of God in writing such an epistle to them as that which we are now considering" [emphasis added] (Stam, The Epistle to the Hebrews, p.26, 34).

Charles Baker certainly believed that the teaching contained in Hebrews is for us now: "The Holy Spirit, among other works, has sealed him until the day of redemption (Ephesians 1:13). It is Christ's present work as Intercessor and Advocate to keep us saved (Hebrews 7:25; I John 2:1, etc.). And because God has expressly told us so (I John 5:13" (Baker, Can a Christian Lose Salvation?, "Bible Study for Bereans", May, 1937, p.23).
Let us look at the following words which were addressed to those who received the book of Hebrews:

" Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh" (Heb.10:19-20).

These words are speaking of the access into the heavenlies which members of the Body of Christ enjoy now. Cornelius Stam wrote:

"The Holiest place of the tabernacle, still closed to Jewish believers at that time, except representatively through the High Priest once each year, reminds us of our free entrance into 'the holiest of all' in heaven itself. By grace we enter the presence of God, '. . . by the blood of Jesus . . . a new and living way, which He hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, His flesh' (Heb. 10:19,20). Think of it! The old dead way replaced by 'a new and living way,' specially consecrated to our use through the blood of Christ! This is the great Pauline doctrine of our access to God (Rom. 5:2) (Stam, The Berean Searchlight, Volume L, Number 2).

Certainly the words in regard to entering the holiest place in the Temple are not instructions which will apply during the great tribulation. Even Pastor Paul Sadler understands that those instructions apply to members of the Body of Christ today. He wrote:

"But now, through the blood of Christ, God dwells in our midst, thus, we can 'come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need' (Heb. 4:16). It is a solemn thought indeed that every believer in Christ dwells in the very presence of God" [emphasis added] (Sadler, Paul's Epistle to the Ephesians [Stephens Point, WI: Worzalla Publishing Co., 1999], p.66).

There can be no doubt that Pastor Sadler is applying the doctrine contained in the book of Hebrews to those in the Body of Christ. He does the same thing again here:

"The work has been accomplished on our behalf; now it is given unto us to 'believe,' at which time we are 'accepted by God' in the Beloved One, having full access into the heavenlies (Eph. 1:6; Phil. 1:29; Heb.10:19,20)" [emphasis added] (Sadler, Exploring the Unsearchable Riches of Christ [Stephens Point, WI: Worzalla Publishing Co.1993; Third Printing], p.177).


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So tell me Brother..What does all this that you have presented mean?

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Post Re: Hebrews 6:1-6 and the Body of Christ
LOL sorry I digressed to that length! Basically I was anticipating a response of "Hebrews 6:1-6 are not for the Body of Christ". In fairness, I did leave out one view of these verses. The "hypothetical situation view". In this view Paul is basically saying "Let's not go over elementary doctrine, but instead press on into maturity, because IF a member of the Body of Christ could reject Christ so completely that they exchange grace for the Law (or some other works-religion) it would be impossible to get them to repent again and come back to Christ. This view does have the advantage not being a denial of eternal security and yet still serving as a warning to those tempted to draw back into judaism.


Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:51 am
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If we understand this warning to be a hypothetical situation which cant actually occur (i.e. a true saint will never be allowed by God to completely apostatize) it still serves as an effective warning when presented to "a mixed group of possessors and professors" and also shows the seriousness with which God views apostasy.


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NO worries Brother. But what I want from you, is to read through these true theologians that you have quoted and then present your own thoughts. So, OK...

Now, what I am getting at is this...The Dispensation of Grace begins with the conversion of Paul and his time spent in the Arabian desert receiving the revelation of the Mystery directly from the Risen and Glorified Christ. But that does NOT mean that at this moment the Dispensation of Law ended. But instead the two overlapped, until the end of the Book of Acts and Paul in Rome.

Therefore, there had to be some documented argument, some proof, in support of his oral teaching and instruction to be circulated among the 1000s of Jews who believed at and after Pentecost, yet all of whom were, "zealous of the Law" (Acts 2:41, Acts 4:4, Acts 6:70). Then as a result of the suspicion and furious hatred that the Jews had for Paul, Paul withheld his name from it. Otherwise the entire epistle may have been simply dismissed if known that it came through Paul.

Ok, lastly, so it seems crazy to me that the Apostle Paul who was inspired to write the epistle to The Romans at an early stage of his ministry, would not have also been allowed to put forth Hebrews. I would think, at this point, "To the Jews first" is very applicable here.

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Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:27 am
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Post Re: Hebrews 6:1-6 and the Body of Christ
I am not sure what you are saying here as I haven't denied Paul's authorship of Hebrews. As far as my earler post, it is quite common to quote from people whose work you respect and whose arguments add weight to your own.


Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:42 am
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OK I have to say a big OOPS here! What I quoted from Pastor Sadler was a correct quote however it does not reflect his views on the the jewish epistles. I believe he views the jewish epistles as not being to the Body of Christ, instead they are to kingdom believers and jews who will become believers in the Tribulation. I do not wish to misrepresent another brother's views.


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